The 40 / 40 Pastor's Podcast
Most pastors are told to choose: the pulpit or the marketplace. The 40/40 Pastor's Podcast exists for those who refuse.
If you spend half your life leading a congregation and the other half running a business, building a career, or operating in the marketplace you're not divided. You're deployed. But no one prepared you for this. Seminary didn't cover payroll. Business school didn't cover Sunday morning grief. And most pastor podcasts assume you're fully funded and full-time.
This show is for the leader who preaches on Sunday and negotiates on Monday. For the church planter who's also a contractor, a consultant, a developer, or an entrepreneur. For the bi-vocational pastor who's tired of feeling like a second-class minister and ready to see the dual calling for what it actually is, a prophetic gift to the local church and the marketplace both.
Each month, the 40/40 Pastor's Podcast brings you honest conversations, real stories, and practical wisdom on identity, time, money, ministry, and the gritty beauty of a life lived fully in both worlds.
You don't have to choose. You were made for both.
Episodes
3 episodes
The Two-World Tax: What Your Congregation Doesn't See
A deacon texts his bi-vocational pastor: "Saw your work truck out again. Everything good with the church stuff?" It's a kind question. But underneath it sits one most 40/40 pastors never get asked directly — and almost never answer honestly: do...
"The Professor, the Pastor, and the Pulpit" | Guest: Dr. Kenneth Chapman
What does it actually look like to hold a doctoral lectern in one hand and a pastoral staff in the other for decades?In Episode 2 of the 40/40 Bi-Vocational Pastor's Podcast, Pastor Arthur J. James sits down with Dr. Kenneth Chapman, a b...
Two Worlds, One Calling
What do you call a pastor who also runs a business? Bi-vocational sounds clinical. Marketplace minister sounds like a conference theme. Tentmaker is biblical but feels ancient. The truth is, there's no clean label for the leader who carries bot...
